Given Swiss Consular Protection

People behaved so harshly to each other, stole bread, a piece of sausage. It was really people... safeguarding their own family. My mother tried to make a campfire in the yard, make some soup. I was breaking up furniture so we could make a bonfire. There was bombing & shelling, house-to-house fighting. We were starving, really. On Christmas Eve a horse was killed just outside the house. It was carved up very quickly. I got a piece of horse... as a Christmas present.

But the fact is that Carl Lutz had saved thousands of Jews with- with the papers that he issued. But whether it actually saved us- all I know that we- we stayed right through the war, except going to that other yellow-star house, in my home.